Yesterday I read a post on a forum about Taiwanese girls. Today I decided to write this rant…
Let me first say this:
- Winston Wu is one of the guys who opened my eyes to the world of international dating.
- I respect him, his readers, and his beliefs (they are similar to mine).
- This is not a diss or a hate article.
I do NOT agree with THIS forum post.
- I’ve been to Taipei.
- I know a guy who has a wonderful Taiwanese girlfriend.
- I’m friends with one. (I interviewed her for this article).
Winston, I would love to meet you one day, but I can’t accept that you call Taiwanese girls cold, shallow, superficial, judgmental, prudish and terrible beyond words…
5 Facts about Taiwanese Girls Winston Wu Got (Kind of) Right
According to Winston, Taiwan is the most prudish country in the world.
Well, I know from my own experience that this is not true and you just have to watch the first couple of seconds of the following video to know what I’m talking about…
Does that mean that Winston is completely wrong?
There are parts of his bitter forum rant that are in fact true…just not in the way he believes…
1. WARNING: Taiwanese Girls Have the Russian Wall (But Not Online)
Winston says that “Taiwanese girls are extremely cold and closed.”
I agree with that. They are cold and closed…but only for about sixty seconds. They are definitely not unapproachable. They are just not as easy to approach as girls from other Asian countries.
Approach a Thai girl and she’ll smile, even if she hates you. Why? Smiling is a cultural rule.
Approach a Taiwanese girl and she’ll smile, but only if she likes you. Why? Smiling is not a cultural rule.
It’s true. Taiwanese girls act cold and distant when you approach them, just like Russian and Ukrainian women. All you have to do is to keep going. Survive 60 seconds of grumpy cat and you can enjoy 60 days of cuddly cat.
The only way to avoid the 60 seconds of ice is to contact Taiwanese singles online. Sorry, the dating service Taiwan Cupid doesn’t exist, but you can chat with thousands of Taiwanese girls on AsianDating.
2. Taiwanese Women Don’t Flirt But Take Action
Winston Wu believes that Taiwanese women view flirting as a taboo.
Yes, they can’t flirt. That’s true.
The Taiwanese culture doesn’t encourage flirting and showing affection in public. But that doesn’t mean that the girls don’t want it. God, they love it when a guy flirts with them, kisses their hand, and does all the things with them that they’ve seen in Western movies.
They just don’t know how to react.
You need to understand that shyness does not equal disinterest. These ladies show you when they are not interested. And they show you when they are interested. In fact, they are the only Asian girls who are not afraid to lead you to the next step of the seduction.
3. Taiwanese Girls Are More Into Rules than German Girls
Now I know why Winston calls Taiwanese women uptight and inhuman. They are a bit like Germans.
- They love their rules.
- They love their queues.
- They do everything for their employers
When it comes to their rules they are better Germans than me. You could say that this makes them conformists. But don’t fool yourself. They secretly fantasize about an adventurous guy who breaks the rules that her daddies want them to adhere to.
4. Taiwanese Men Outnumber Girls in Clubs (Just Like In Every Other Country)
Men outnumber women in the night clubs of Taiwan. That’s correct. But please name one country, besides Ukraine, where this is not the case. That’s why picking up girls in clubs sucks. Nevertheless, I can see more girls than I could handle…
The only reason why guys go to clubs is because they hope to get laid. Of course there are more guys than women. Visit a club in Bangkok and you’ll see the same picture. Heck, don’t be so narrow-minded and believe that bars and clubs ARE the Taiwanese dating scene.
The good girls of Taiwan don’t even go there.
5. Some Taiwanese Girls Act like Divas (Winston, You’re Right!)
Okay, I can’t argue with that.
This is the one stereotype about Taiwanese women that is in fact true. Due to the economic development that the country experienced within the past few years, they can act like spoilt little divas.
It’s your job to bring her down to earth.
Make clear that you don’t accept disrespectful behavior and that you accept a diva temper tantrum once, but not twice. Set boundaries and she’ll respect you more than any of her past boyfriends.
17 Reasons Why Winston Wu Doesn’t Understand Taiwanese Girls
Yes Winston, Taiwanese women can be cold and closed when you approach them. And yes, they are also not the most flirtatious creatures on the planet.
But that doesn’t justify calling them…
- Simple and primitive.
- Shallow and superficial.
- Prudish and fake.
I’ve been to Taipei and I interviewed the Taiwanese girl in my language school (I’m currently studying Thai). My experience tells me that these beautiful Asian ladies are anything but terrible beyond words.
Here’s how they REALLY are…
6. Taiwanese Girls are Not Picky Because Thousands of Them Are Lonely
Winston, you said that Taiwanese girls are extremely picky and I don’t believe that. Just look at the data. The numbers don’t lie.
In Taipei there are only 91.8 men for every 100 women.
That’s the exact opposite of China and even though there are more men than women in China, there are still thousands of girls who use dating apps and chat rooms to meet Western men.
Why do you think online dating is so popular in Taiwan?
There are literally millions of lonely girls who dream of meeting the right guy. Some of them cry themselves to sleep at night because they are sick and tired of being alone.
Others take action and join the largest Asian dating site.
7. Taiwanese Girls are Interested in Western Culture (And Not Insular)
You call them insular and narrow. I call them open-minded and interested.
Due to the political past of their country, many Taiwanese girls are interested in politics, democracy and Western values. Heck, you are not talking to a Chinese chick that has never seen Facebook or Twitter.
The girls in Taipei, Taichung, Tainan and other parts of the country are more open-minded and liberal that the girls from other Asian countries. That’s a fact.
But hey, maybe Winston is right.
Maybe they are interested in these topics but it’s impossible to have an intelligent and deep conversation with them…
8. Just Yesterday I Had an Interesting Conversations with My Taiwanese Friend
Sorry, I have to say no, no and no.
- I had a two-hour conversation with a girl in Taipei.
- I asked my friend what he talks about with his girlfriend.
- Just Yesterday I had an amazing conversation with my friend from the language school.
The moral of the story:
It is possible to have a deep, interesting, and meaningful conversation with Taiwanese girls…at least with the girls I know.
9. Taiwanese Girls are Intellectually Challenging (When They’re Not Staring at Their Smartphone)
In fact, it would be weird if it was impossible to have deep conversations with them. And it would also be even weirder if they were as anti-intellectualism as Winston Wu says.
I mean, they have the fourth highest IQ in the world.
That’s not too bad, especially if you consider the fact that there are 196 countries in the world. The truth is that most Taiwanese ladies have above average intelligence and are happy to discuss intellectual topics…at least when they don’t stare at their smartphone.
10. Taiwanese Girls are Passive in Bed (But Not Prudish)
Prudish is the wrong word because prudish means that they are shocked by matters relating to sex and nudity. That’s how the dictionary defines it. But that’s not how the local girls are.
They are passive, but not prudish. That’s a big difference!
They are active when it comes to leading you to the next step (with signals, invitations), but they are extremely passive when it comes to sexual escalation. That shouldn’t surprise you. They are Asian. Of course Taiwanese women are passive in bed.
Remember the video that I shared with you in the beginning?
Yes, the one with the moaning girl.
Is it really that prudish to ride a guy and moan with pleasure?
And Winston, Taiwan is definitely not the most prudish country in the world. I guess you’ve heard about Myanmar, Malaysia, Nepal and Butan. Kissing in public is forbidden in Malaysia. Your Malaysian girlfriend might get locked up. Your Taiwanese girlfriend doesn’t have to worry about that.
Sex in Taiwan might be a taboo in the movies. But it’s not a taboo in the bedrooms.
11. Taiwanese Babes are Not THAT Flakey Winston
Are Taiwanese girls really as flakey as Winston says?
I mean, sure. If you approach a 20-year-old party girl in a club, she’ll probably flake. But when it comes to online dating, I don’t agree with Winston.
There are thousands of Taiwanese mail order brides who are looking for love online. These women are looking for a serious relationship and marriage.
Give me one reason why they should flake.
For Christ’s sake, have you been to Colombia? That’s what I call flakey!
12. Your Future Taiwanese Girlfriend Shows up on Time
Taiwanese girls are so damn good at being German. They don’t just love rules. They show up on time.
That fills my German heart with joy.
Yes, they are Asian and yes, they are punctual. I know that it sounds like a contradiction, but it’s true. According to my friend, it’s a no-go to be late. Man, that’s so different than in other parts of Asia.
I can’t even tell you how many hours I’ve wasted waiting for girls in Thailand, the Philippines, and Vietnam…
13. Taiwanese Girls are Surprisingly Honest (Not Inhuman)
They are not mean, heartless and inhuman. They are honest.
When a Taiwanese girl doesn’t like you, she’ll let you know. And yes, I know that this is quite unusual for Asian girls. Some men might argue that a rejection is the same as a heartless, cold, and inhuman action. But it’s not.
Not every girl will like you. That’s a fact that you have to accept, even if your ego rebels.
Ask yourself this:
Do you want to waste your time with a girl who smiles for three hours before she rejects you or do you want to get rejected within three seconds?
I rather want an honest girl who tells me to fuck off than a girl who wastes my precious time, just because she wants to be nice.
14. Taiwanese Girls Act Cute (Just Like All Other Asian Girls)
According to Winston Wu, cute Taiwanese girls have a “fake innocence” and a “cheesy corny gay ass hello kitty expression.”
Listen very carefully:
If you don’t like girls who act cute, don’t date Asian girls. It’s that simple.
Japanese girls do the same. They call it kawaii. You can read about it in this article.
South Korean girls do it too. They call it aegyo. You can read about it here.
Have you ever dated a Thai girl? My girlfriend does it too and I love it.
As an Asian man Winston should know that this is a part of the Asian dating culture. In the West women act manly to get what they want. In the east they act cute. And it’s neither gay, nor corny, nor does it have to do anything with hello kitty…even though Asian women love hello kitty.
15. Hot Taiwanese Girls Want to Be Hotter (Since when is This Superficial?)
Since when are girls who care about their looks superficial? And since when is this bad?
Let’s be honest…
Reasons why Winston Wu and I say “hell no!” to dating in the West is because…
- The women are not feminine.
- They don’t care about their physique.
- They don’t care about the way they present themselves.
Taiwanese girls, on the other hand, are obsessed with being thin, having soft skin, and wearing nice clothes. In fact, they are so obsessed with their bodies that you might save one or two lives if you tell them that they are too thin.
16. Dating a Taiwanese Girl is Easy Because She Speaks the Same Language
Dating in Taiwan is already easy for foreigners, but it gets even easier when you have a look at their English proficiency index.
Taiwanese women are more fluent in English than…
- Japanese girls.
- Vietnamese girls.
- Thai girls.
- Cambodian girls.
- Chinese girls.
I don’t say that Taiwanese girls are easy, but it’s definitely easy to get to know them, to set up dates with them, and to connect with them because they speak the same language as you.
I’m serious. Contact some of the female members on AsianDating and you’ll get answers that contain more than one word.
What if you still don’t believe me?
Maybe you believe your own eyes…
17. Dating a Xicanmei Makes it Even Easier
A Xicanmei is a hot Taiwanese woman who exclusively dates white Western men.
Okay, that doesn’t help Winston because he’s Asian, but you get the point. Dating these girls is easier than stealing a soother from a baby. But I have to warn you. She might see you as a status symbol and not as a partner.
That’s one of the reasons why some foreigners in Taiwan stick to expat dating.
But there are only a few Caucasian-obsessed Xicanmei. Many local girls want to date you for the right reasons.
18. Dating in Taiwan is Not a Total Cockblock (Her Granny Loves You)
Okay Winston, I agree with you that Taiwanese guys love to cockblock you in nightclubs. Guys in China, Shanghai, and even in Thailand do the same. Let’s face it. Most Asian men get furious when they see how a white guy hits on “one of their girls”.
But again, picking up girls in clubs sucks in every country.
The good news is that the family of your Taiwanese girlfriend won’t cockblock you. In my article about the women in China, I told you that a Chinese grandmother will probably hate you. You don’t have to worry about that when you’re dating in Taiwan.
The culture and the customs are different.
Taiwanese families are a lot more open about Western men dating their daughters and granddaughters than the girls from the Mainland. Heck, it’s even more accepted than in Japan and South Korea.
19. Sexy Taiwanese Girls are Less Materialistic than Chinese Girls (But More Demanding)
There’s more good news:
Taiwanese chicks are not as materialistic as the women in China.
However, they are more demanding.
The salaries of Taiwanese women are more than five times as high as the salaries in China. Therefore, your Taiwanese girlfriend has a higher standard of living, more hobbies, and higher expectations. She doesn’t want a new handbag. She wants to spend time with you and do fun things.
20. Your Taiwanese Girlfriend is Financially Independent (Is that Really Depriving?)
Did I really just say that the hottest Taiwanese girls don’t need your money?
Yep, that’s what I said. And it’s true.
There’s a high chance that…
- She earns as much as you.
- She doesn’t need your credit card.
- She is completely financially independent.
Is that really so depriving, Winston?
Unless you have a fragile ego that enjoys it when a woman is begging you for money, you should be happy that she meets you because she wants to date you and not because she wants to have an intimate relationship with your wallet.
21. The Women in Taiwan are Way More Liberal than in The Movies
The movies don’t show kissing scenes. So what?
I live in Thailand and I’ve never seen a kissing scene in a movie. Does that mean that all Thai women are prudish?
I know a lot of guys who would deny that.
Taiwan is the most liberal country in Asia, especially when it comes to sex. I mean, they were the first Asian country that recognized same-sex marriage.
I bet my ass that a Taiwanese girl has a more liberal attitude towards one-night stands and fast sex than a Chinese girl.
So much to the most prudish country in Asia…
22. It’s Not Hard at All to Get them to Respond on Dating Sites
Winston says that it’s hard to get them to respond on dating sites. I say that it’s pretty easy.
Why don’t you find it out for yourself?
- Check out my AsianDating review
- Join the site for free.
- Contact 20 Taiwanese girls (You can use the exact message I share in the review).
You’ll have at least one reply in your inbox after 24 hours. I guarantee it.
Summed Up Wisdom
I read Winston Wu’s forum post about Taiwanese girls and I was shocked. He’s one of the guys who inspired me to embark on my international dating journey. Nevertheless, I had to reveal the truth…
And the truth is that the women from Taiwan are only cold when you give up and they are only narrow-minded if you don’t engage them in interesting conversations. In fact, Taiwanese women are some of the most smartest and liberal women in Asia.
It’s definitely not the most prudish country in the world and it’s also not hard to get a response when you contact Taiwanese girls online. Heck, most of the young girls speak English AND are financially independent. You are not forced to learn another language and you are also not forced to pay for her meal. Is that really so depriving?
I’ve found japanese girls like western man but require longer courtships. But if youre polite and spend money taking them places and on gifts, they respond well. Taiwan & China seemed equally difficult but not impossible. In Korea I only found girls with pricetags but with offers in bars of $10 allnight & even $7 allnight I can’t help but feel they actually appreciated us. Sex was such a small part of all-night and they seemed to love every minute so long as you are interesting and dig the company. There are two city’s I visited that stand out among south east Asia. Manila and Bangkok. I never paid for girls as most do in both countries. I would try various restaurants and shopping venues to scope regular girls and frequent places I found promising. My first girl in Manila was a waitress that I tipped and made blush with compliments. It didn’t take much to get dates with her after becoming familiar. Plus you can tell pretty quick who wants to play ball.no pun. Perhaps Winston could use a week off to relearn social skills in P.I. or even pay a bar fine to polish his skills of how to connect with females. Although I recommend my way. The hunt is more fulfilling.
Sebastian Harris says
I’m happy for you!
Asian man, 5 feet 7 inches says
I’m an asian dude from America and I went to Taiwan for a week, and it blew my mind away. Idk why but as an Asian American man I did so much better than the white men there on getting these girls. They went crazy for me, I slept with the best ones. I feel like since more white guys go to Asia than ABCs, we hear so much of white men success there. When in fact my Asian American male privilege is best there, woohoooo. Gotta go there again, the white boys there don’t understand how to do it. Maybe ABCs are just closer to their culture and they see something more long term with us, and we can attract the large subset of the population of Taiwanese girls that white guys can never attract.
I’ve always been curious about Taiwanese girls. I never dated one before but I heard they are very beautiful and more liberal compared to some of the other more conservative countries in Asia. I’m hoping in the near future I can check out Taiwan.
Anthony Estes says
To be more specific, have u heard the phrase 差不多先生? And there is something called 人情. Depending on the personality, some western folks have a very hard time ever really getting a handle on either of these. They (we?) are very strongly used to having and promoting interactions where people try their best to help the other person understand what u really want and expect. But in some Asian societies it seems like there is no such habit. U either get it or u dont. Read the wind and water. In Japan there is some kind of intercultural communication thing. A kind of excited interest in talking ur values. But in Taiwan it can sometimes feel like agrarian, where fewer people have the habit of explaining themselves.
Anthony Estes says
Hi, agreed that if u are western and u use Taiwanese culture the right way u can get a following of girls. The problem Winston pointed out though has to do with the feelings and expectations being constantly “just out of reach” despite Taiwan being a place where Western partners would theoretically be wanted. It can feel like they want and dont want at the same time. U sometimes kind of want to say “pls make up ur mind if u want a western guy or not.” “Using” the culture can become a bit like an endless series of negotiations to purchase a product line where the real stakes are always a bit hidden. If ur a diplomat or negotiator u may love it. Also if u enjoy dating in the game sense. Anyway the fact that some western men talk so straightforwardly means they feel partly a part of the culture already and they just want to vent. And in some ways they have become asianized because here men are expected to speak their mind. Also its like if ur at home and vent about ur own society.
Sebastian Harris says
No one said that black guys don’t have a chance 😉
I’m having good and happy experience with a Taiwan lady through online dating. As a black guy, maybe I should probably say am lucky to have seen one.
Sebastian Harris says
Very thoughtful comment. 😛
Sebastian Harris says
You are welcome.
thanks for the nice detailed article & a positive view on taiwanese girls
There are enough of many types of women in Taiwan that most guys can easily have a very negative impression of them, but plenty of guys could also have positive dating experiences.
I’ve lived in Taiwan for several years and I just find Taiwanese girls mostly unattractive, masculine, and antisocial. It does take some time to find girls here who actually have social skills, but they exist. I do however meet plenty of the primitive, superficial types too.
Sebastian Harris says
thank you so much for your detailed comment. I really appreciate it.
Sebastian Harris says
Thanks for sharing your experience, Anthony.
Anthony Estes says
BTW the comment about these women being primitive. I agree with it for many cases. And the reasons are several. First, i have been to many many group activities which are not dating related, and there the primitive part also comes out. It has to do with women making decisions as if the only thing that counts is their first gut level reaction. I have felt it is like someone not being to hold their liquor. When something happens that minorly inconveniences the girl, she does not really know how to say anything about it. She just drops to a low and serious tone, “i’m going….” And then its over. Here, there seems to be something also mixed in from the attitude of entitlement. As if to say, “you should have taken better care of me and now i am going to punish you for that.” Else, what happens has to do with women here being almost nasty in their use of false rumors, or emotion-laden peer pressure giving. At work for example. Now, not to say it is more than other cultures. Just, here it seems perhaps that the uncouth element of entitled emotionality seems close to the surface. Of course, white men in the US have their own version, which is perhaps even a closer copy to a “man’s” emotionality.
Now, a lot of this is not to prove that Taiwan women are worse than other places. Probably are better. Rather, the point is just to provide a counter to the often said rumors that Taiwanese women are so awesomely crazy about western men and so easy, and so something else. Trying to bring some balance to the rumors and say, well, okay but they do a lot of the same stuff that stuck up prom princesses do elsewhere also. So its not perfect.
Anthony Estes says
Good discussion because you did not completely knock all of Winston’s points, but instead provided a balanced reply.
This is important to keep in mind for the readers. This article does NOT completely dismiss all of Winston’s points, but still agrees with some crucial aspects of what Winston was saying. I was a reader who almost completely agreed with Winston in every detail. I have lived in Taiwan for 8 years and have had some long term relationships here, as well as dated many others. And, what i would say is that, no matter these women here like westerners and are open in some sense, those claims by Winston still apply to many situations.
Now to reply to this article. It seems to me that the fact that many women here do not know how to reply to flirting is a big deal. Not knowing how makes many simple-minded western men feel that what they are doing is not kosher and they better walk away. Innocence is cute but when it stays firmly in place it can also be a block. Their wanting to please employers and follow the rules also creates a block for western men who have issues with authority but still want to respect the other persons’ boundaries. There is a very big space for Romeo and Juliet type situations to occur, where both parties would like to get past their barrier but both feel held back by something. And so it never happens.. About cockblocks, it has happened to me when the very best girl seemed to be interested in me. So i always end up being left with other girls who i was not really looking for. What sometimes happens is that you end up in something like a caste system where the best are reserved for someone else even though it seems they could also like you; and they are reserved by things that seem almost caused by a third party and not them. And so you end up feeling angry but don’t know who to be angry at.
The issue of women “being passive” is worth discussion. Have met numerous women in public places in Taipei who seem to fit the concept of “passive,” which is the word that is often locally used by Taiwan people to describe many women. Passive means, expecting the other person to make all the moves. This seems to be almost like a repeating loop, where you really cannot seem to get to the point where she is expressing something “actively” to you, until such point that she suddenly decides it is really necessary to do so. I have been told by several older women that this is because of a deeply entrenched concept that this is “what men really want to do.” Not sure. How could so many people have such a concept? For many western men who are themselves not exactly the swashbuckling extrovert, it can seem as though this “passivity” creates an impassible moral barrier. You cannot think of any way to approach this person without fear of being eyed with suspicion since at no point does she let on the slightest willingness to let you approach her (unless you are really just all out, without any reservations, in which case she is suddenly “open” to you.) This dynamic keeps a loop going in which conservative, old school stereotypes of “manly” and “womanly” behavior, seemingly taken from the old aristocratic world of real men and real women, keep getting replayed. For us leftists or hipsters who feel we have never like conservative gender models, we feel forced to act like a mainstream normal conservative or else just give up.
So, i am attracted to “cutely passive” behavior, but find that it creates an often impassible barrier. And of course, western men who come here, if they are the more swashbuckling type or if they are very PC, are often very likely to be against anything someone like me might want to say about the culture. They are likely to say, “well if you are like that you should just leave,” or “sorry buddy but….” So, it is also hard to find white men wanting to be friendly. For me this is also sad. Because i take it that the important thing in life is people standing up for each other. And i really do not like politically correct talk, as it feels like being squeezed into a cookie cutter.
Sebastian Harris says
Thanks Taiwanese girl!
Taiwanese girl says
Very well detailed written Sebastian Harris ! You just nailed Winston Wu 😉
Sebastian Harris says
thanks for your comment. It will make a lot of Western men smile.
I think Winston found those problems probably because he is just not attractive or either acts like a dick to those girls. I am a Taiwanese girl and I’ve seen so many girls obsessed with western guys. We even have a word called ” Ha Yang Diao” to describe that many Taiwanese girls love western dick. Lol It’s a rude and hate word made by Taiwanese guys but it shows that Taiwanese are more open minded than other Asian. My mom is the best example, she only dates western guys. To approach a Taiwanese girl, all you have to do is to be respectful and interesting. Don’t be too straight forward to ask for sex cuz they are shy. Invite them with a respectful and gentlement way. I believe they will love you more than love a Taiwanese guy. Believe me there are so many girls out there think western guys are attractive. You just have to understand the culture and use a right way.
I’ve met several Japanese, Korean, and Chinese when I studied abroad in the USA. Korean or Chinese are closed to make western friend, they only like to talk to Asian. But Japanese and Taiwanese are always open to knowing people from different countries.
Sebastian Harris says
I would say that China and Japan are easier than Korea and Taiwan. Any thoughts on that?
Mikey Johnson says
Can someone compare difficulty of Taiwan to Japan, Korea, China, and the US for dating? Would appreciate it.
Sebastian Harris says
He was born in Taiwan…
Sebastian Harris says
You see, that’s why I believe in God 😛
my god look at the girl dancing on the right in the first video at 10:30…asian girls are a gift frome god
He probably had one or two bad expériences which made him having a biased point of view, like i do with koreans and chineses.